This is not an event to which I was invited, but there’s enough Twittering going on about it that I felt I needed to weigh in with my opinion. It seems that Johnson & Johnson, the company that makes things like Baby Shampoo, has created a three-day, all-expenses-paid event to which they have invited a variety of Mommybloggers. Some of those invitees have very young babies who are still nursing, and if you are reading this post and are a parent, you know that nursing babies need to be with their Moms. Sure, it’s possible to pump milk that can be given to the baby in a bottle (although some breastfeeding babies refuse bottle nipples), but three days’ worth would be difficult.
So some of these invitees contacted the event organizers and asked if their babies were invited to the event. The answer?
NO.
Someone affiliated with Johnson’s came up with the idea of a “Camp Baby”, invited bloggers that they knew had very young babies, but decided that the babies would not be able to come because of “insurance liability”. Um, huh? Which then led to several bloggers actually being DIS-INVITED to the event. Not cool, Johnson’s, not cool at all.
I’m trying to see it from both sides, I’ve never planned a corporate event so I don’t know what the insurance liabilities are, and obviously it’s their event, they can make whatever rules they want. But whomever planned this event apparently doesn’t realize that bloggers can spread the word about something faster than the speed of light. It’s already all over Twitter, and it looks like some participants are planning to drop out just on principal.
What do you think about this? Should Johnson’s Camp Baby have made an exception for nursing mothers? If the idea was to get a bunch of bloggers together to talk about how Johnson’s can be more supportive of new Moms or whatever, shouldn’t they have understood that new Moms=BABIES?
It will be interesting to see whether this controversy has any effect on the Camp Baby event or not.
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New Mom Equals New Babies and babies so tiny should not be left at home for daddy to take care of for 3…THREE…hole days! Johnson’s should have planned way better for this even than they did!
And if they can’t have babies then they can’t have new mom’s and I hope that so many Mom’s drop out that this is a bust!
I am going to look more into this and write up a post myself!
Thank you girl for posting this and bring this to my attention!
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Wow, they have really dropped the ball on this one! Of all the companies to do so, J&J would have been the furthest from my mind.
Babies whether nursing or bottle fed, SHOULD BE allowed!
J&J royally screwed up in my opinion. Obviously someone who is NOT a mother organized this, which wouldn’t be a problem necessarily…but since BABIES of the MOTHERS they invited cannot attend, then there IS a problem.
I was not invited and now I’m glad.
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I think the original intent was for it to be a mother’s retreat.
All they needed to have done was to state that clearly, and people could decide what they wanted to do.
I don’t think their intentions were bad, I just think it wasn’t thought through carefully enough.
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I am going - and am looking forward to going - but am sad that I’ll miss seeing some folks who would have otherwise attended if they didn’t have nursing babies.
I appreciate the concept of “retreat,” but 99% of the nursing mothers I know are respectful enough to know when to “exit stage left” when their child needs attention. If there are women nursing discretely and quietly, their presence would not distract from my “retreat.”
So yes, I am disappointed to read about the controversy surrounding what I hope will be an amazing event. But as this is their first year, and as they are already responding to the posts surrounding various issues, I expect that if they do something similar again, it will be with the “hindsight” of what happened this year.
WOW did they mess up.. I wonder if they even thought about nurseing mothers..
I’m a mom of 4 who formula feed my older two(why because I was young and dumb LOL no really I just didn’t know anything but bottles and formula it was what I was raised with and knew) and who nursed my younger two.
There is no way a nursing mother could leave her young baby.. but there was no way i would have left my young baby at all not my nurseing babies and not my formula feed ones.. Babies need there mommies.. end of story..
you think a baby company would have thought of that..
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You can’t have a camp for mother’s and not let them bring their babies! I can’t believe they were so short sighted! And what liability? If the moms can’t keep up with their own kids that’s their own problem. I can see how the babies could cause a lot of disturbance, but provide a daycare in the next room or something, or allow babysitters (like older siblings) to come too.
GRR!
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Sheila-You bring up a good point that I missed. Whether the invited Moms have breastfeeding babies or bottle feeding babies doesn’t matter. Now, I went to BlogHer when Kaitlyn was 8 months old, but she was bottle fed and very comfortable with having Daddy take care of her. I still think that for this Johnson’s event, they should have allowed Moms who truly couldn’t leave a child at home to make their own arrangements for bringing that child. If you come back and read the other comments, you’ll see that Leigh made a really good point along those lines.
Jennifer-I’m getting some really great comments on this post! Leigh makes a good point that Johnson’s could have made it the Mom’s responsibility to provide someone to care for the baby when the Mom was in a meeting or session or whatever. Are they saying that if the Mom wanted to pay to bring their spouse or an older sibling, that wouldn’t be allowed?
Busy Mom-That was a great comment and a good point. They could have pitched it to the Moms they invited that way, but I still think saying “absolutely not” to allowing young babies is the wrong way to go. What if someone was willing to pay the plane fare and hotel cost to bring their husband, a family member, a nanny to provide most of the care for the infant?
Not knowing the agenda for the event, I don’t know if having to take a short feeding break would really break the flow of the event or not. Think of how many women brought babies to BlogHer last year, and brought their Mom or husband to help with care. I don’t think their BlogHer experience suffered for it! But then again, I don’t know what Johnson’s side of this is.
Kari-Jane from Pinks and Blues just left a Twitter that all attendees got an email saying that this has been a “learning experience” for the Johnson’s people? Are they changing anything about the event?
I don’t think it is a smart business practice to offend the vary people you are trying to market to. I don’t know the insurance cost either but this bad publicity they are getting over this will probably cost them more then they would have paid.
Good Lord! That makes no sense at all. These “guys” (and they probably are guys) are idiots.
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shame on J&J! I think it’s appalling actually. You invite moms — new moms — blogging moms…
come on, you’re just asking for trouble if you don’t let the wee ones come.
And what “liability?”
I say shame on them for not “thinking”!
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Planning a corporate event of this magnitude - I mean, an all expenses paid trip - I was quite frankly, surprised that they were inviting mom bloggers, in the first place.
I understand how a corporation would need to be restrictive in their planning.
However, I also believe that J&J should have made themselves clear about attendance rules and perhaps could have avoided all the bad press about having to cancel registrations, and such.
The company did, however, issue an apology - I’m sorry, but that IS the first time I’ve ever seen this happen and I’ve been blogging for 5 years, now.
Companies are trying to reach out through the internet and it’s our responsibility, as mom bloggers, to help them along.
We have a huge voice and they know it, especially now.
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Oh, and yes I am going - since I live in Jersey - and look forward to hearing what they have to say.
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Personally, I question the name, “Camp Baby”. That implies to me that it’s for babies and their moms. Seems to me that was poor planning from the get go.
Sounds like they made a bad decision on this one.
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Wow is all I can say. I stumbled this post for you.
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It sounds like they either didn’t think this one through, or figured it wouldn’t be a big deal. Either way, as another commenter says, it obviously wasn’t planned by a mom. Or anyone who has ever personally known a mom.
It’s incredibly difficult, both practically and emotionally, to be separated from a nursing baby. They should have been aware of this and at least made it clear that babies could not attend for their own safety. This makes them look pretty silly.
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Nursing babies just can’t be left with another caregiver easily. I think we all know that, but I haven’t seen that awareness from Johnson’s, even in the apologies that are now on CityMama’s and Mothergoosemouse’s sites. That’s fundamental for us, but news for them?
Surprising.
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lol it this a joke? What mean the name ” baby camp” ?
in my opinion it mean, moms and there babies…
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