30 Sep

Another scary money conversation at my house

Author: Elizabeth

From New York Times Business online:

“Even before the opening bell, Monday looked ugly. But by the time that bell sounded again on the New York Stock Exchange, seven and a half frantic hours later, $1.2 trillion had vanished from the United States stock market.”

And from Money.CNN.com:

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) — First, the good news: Even if warnings of economic catastrophe aren’t enough to win approval of a controversial $700 billion Wall Street bailout, the economy is not at risk of falling into a depression, most experts agree.

During the Great Depression, unemployment shot up to as much as 25% in 1933. That came after the gross domestic product, the broadest measure of economic activity, plunged 13% the previous year.

Millions of people lost their savings when banks closed without any insurance for its customers’ deposits. Few economists are predicting economic pain of that magnitude.

Now the bad news: Even if the plan to buy up bad mortgage debt from troubled banks and Wall Street firm does pass, it probably won’t be enough to stop the economy from getting worse than it is today.

And if the battered credit markets fail to restart, either because the bailout fails to win Congressional approval or it doesn’t work as planned, the nation could be facing its worst economic downturn since the Great Depression.

I admit, I don’t think about the future. I don’t “save for a rainy day”. But as my husband and I sat watching “Heroes” last night, we talked about the economy. I asked him if he thought we were headed for another Depression and he said no, but he said he thought we needed to seriously tighten our financial belts. Because we don’t have any savings, and if he lost his job, we would be screwed.

Starting today, I’m going to be cancelling every expenditure we don’t need. I pay for Weight Watchers Online- don’t need it, there are ways to get Weight Watchers recipes and info for free. If I need a structured plan, there’s always SparkPeople which is miraculously still free to use. I don’t need a monthly membership to Blockbuster Online-I get a lot of new releases free to review, and we rarely use the membership anyway. I already cancelled the “pro” membership I was paying StatCounter, since I can find stats through Woopra and Google Analytics. There’s another $9.00 a month.

I’m not getting any magazines delivered anymore, which for a self-proclaimed magazine junkie like myself is hard to give up, but it all adds up. We aren’t buying any school photos this Fall, what the heck is up with that anyway? Now they want you to buy portrait packages twice a year and pay for a Fall Yearbook? School pictures and yearbooks are for the end of the year. Period. I’m also not buying any cheap wrapping paper or $8.00 boxes of chocolate with 5 pieces inside. I hate school fundraising because the stuff for sale is always such junk.

Ryan’s 12th birthday is Thursday. It’s costing me $30.00 for cider and donuts for him to pass out to his class and teachers that morning, which is a ridiculously large amount of money but that and a trip to play Laser Tag for him and three friends is his gift this year. He wants to buy the new “Fable” game but it’s going to have to wait unless I can get a freelance writing job in the next few days that pays immediately.

Ryan needs jeans and pants. Kaitlyn needs everything because we finally went through all the clothes that my blog friends with older girls sent me. The kids are going to all need snow boots and jackets this year. Which is why there is no money for things like diet plans and magazines. And with as much determination as I can, I have to start putting money in a savings account, at least two months’ worth.

I might be over-reacting, and I hope I am. But having money put aside just in case and learning how to stretch the budget is helpful no matter what’s happening with the economy. I can’t control the economy of the country, but I can control the economy of my family, and that’s better than nothing.

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27 Responses to “Another scary money conversation at my house”

  1. Kimberly/Mom in the City (3 comments.) says:

    It’s smart to make those moves. I’m taking baby steps (i.e. no more Starbucks until the end of the November). Even though my husband’s job (teacher) is relatively secure, you never know in these crazy financial times!

  2. Melissa (47 comments.) says:

    We have lived for our first 4 years of marriage without “extras” so I guess we can live like that for several more years :) That is nice that some bloggers have given you clothes for your daughter. I have never had to buy clothes for my daughters, they get all my little sister’s clothes and some from their cousins.

  3. Alexia (13 comments.) says:

    Needing money sucks. The economy sucks. I’m getting really sick of pinching pennies. BUT Goodwill is awesome! It’s saved me alot of money and kept me and the boys clothed for quite a few years now :)

  4. valmg
    Twitter: valmg
    (61 comments.)
    says:

    We’re really tightening things up, hubby’s been out of work now for two weeks. Which of course is causing other problems.

  5. Lisa
    Twitter: blm03
    (44 comments.)
    says:

    We are going to try and eat out less here.

  6. Lanna (242 comments.) says:

    Pro-active is much better than scrambling to react. The economy is a big topic at our house, too. Our viewpoint is different, so we’ve been expecting/waiting for things to tank, it was just about that time and blah blah blah.

    Luckily we’re doing well, except I still want to plant more fruit trees in the backyard but don’t know if we’ll have time this fall. Growing as much of our food as humanly possible on our small lot has been my mission for the last year or so, or at least to gear up for it with how many mouths we need to feed. :) Now to figure out how I can squish a chicken tractor in the backyard… ;)

  7. jenn (1 comments.) says:

    We have no savings either, but we don’t have many luxuries to give up. Internet and cable are the two things we “could” do without, but what’s the fun of sitting home if there’s nothing to do?

  8. Headless Mom (42 comments.) says:

    Mary/Owlhaven just got done doing a month of nothing. She has a Mr. Linky to the other participants and there are some great ideas. It might be worth your time to check them all out and get some fresh ideas for saving a little more. I’ve also started reading Frugal Dad and there are some really great ideas there. Good Luck! I’m doing a lot of that too.

  9. Peter Answers (7 comments.) says:

    I think it is very smart and we have been doing something similar. It’s amazing when you start to add everything up how much you can save in a year!

  10. Dawn @ Coming to a Nursery Near You
    Twitter: dawniemom
    (22 comments.)
    says:

    Hubby’s telling me we need to do that too. It’s a scary time, truly. We do have a little bit of savings, which I guard very cautiously. But yeah, if he lost his job, we’d be screwed too.

  11. Seguro de Vida em Grupo (1 comments.) says:

    Yeah… scary times. This economy crisis is driving me nervous… It’s a different situation. Let’s hope that the USA can handle it.

  12. Kim/hormone-colored days (10 comments.) says:

    Your scrimping now will pay off later–literally. Good luck. Things are tough right now. It is scary.

  13. kailani
    Twitter: kailani
    (15 comments.)
    says:

    I think it’s always a good idea to put something away if just for piece of mind. You just never know when your crazy husband will crash his bicycle and be out of work for 6 weeks – hypothetically speaking of course. *wink*

  14. Rachel Inbar (6 comments.) says:

    We buy scrip for our local supermarket (here it’s 10-15% off) and that saves us a lot of money. We also stock up on things when they’re on sale (like diapers, wipes, pasta, etc.) And we accept hand-me-downs, which saves TONS of money. Also, when people ask what to bring my kids as gifts, I ask for practical things (like boots). Oh, and when I do need to buy clothes for my kids, I try to buy end of season for the next year (and they almost always fit). Tricky to learn how to save wisely, but you get to be pretty good at it with practice.

  15. carosgram says:

    I watched Bill Moyers last night and listen to a man talk about how as a country we continue to want more than we can afford – it is all about consumption. Just as many individuals use credit to get what they cannot really afford, our country thinks it can ‘charge’ our way out of a financial problem. The book the man wrote is called The Limits of Power. I just ordered it from Amazon. I admire your desire to try to live within your means. It isn’t easy to not have the ‘things’ that other people. But it feels very safe and secure to be debt free. Thinking of you and wishing you the best

  16. Business Administration Degree (1 comments.) says:

    I truly believe that we would not be in the financial predicament we’re in if people would learn to live within their means. Advertising and marketing campaigns tell us that we need material things to be happy, but this simply isn’t true. No, it isn’t fun to struggle to pay your bills – but most American citizens have more stuff than the rest of the world can ever dream of possessing. It’s great that people donate clothes to you – you’re also teaching your children valuable lessons about money and budgeting.

  17. JD Dennison (1 comments.) says:

    We’ve tightened the belts here too. Last year’s grandkids fundraiser of cookie dough set me off! I’m trying to stay healthy, and to ‘have’ to buy this stuff…

    The whole process got me thinking, and we came up with a healthy school fundraiser. We have these awesome Liquid Vitamins, and a way to set up a fundraiser.

    So we created easy-school-moneyraiser.com to explain the possibilities.

    The bottom line….I would sure prefer to stay healthy, and all of my family than have time off work, medical expenses. And to help the schools who are hurting right now…. This is a very beautiful way to do it.

    Blessings to all
    ~ ~ JD

  18. Stephanie (11 comments.) says:

    We’re watching money very carefully here too. Just came off of hubby being unemployed for 6 months due to a layoff in January. We scraped by, but it wasn’t easy and had lots of family support.

    We try each year to have a good garden. This year’s flopped, in part because we were so distracted by the job hunt. Hopefully next year will go better.

    I love one thing my daughter’s school started this year. They publicized that you can just donate money directly to the school rather than participate in fundraisers. Much better for the school to get everything you’re paying, and you don’t end up with junk.

  19. Lanna (242 comments.) says:

    Ooh, I just remembered an awesome book I came across a while ago. Material World by Peter Menzel. Very neat – I bet the kids would get a kick out of it, too if you can snag it from the library. :)

  20. Polina (5 comments.) says:

    Economy makes me sad. Actually, each time I go to a store to buy some food, receive my bills for daughter’s schooling and see the expenses for the flat (electricity, gas, water) it is hard to refrain from crying… Prices gets increased for just everything… I don’t know what’s about the World-wide financial depression, but i have already got my personal one:(((

  21. Edna (2 comments.) says:

    Times like this trigger us to reevaluate our priorities in life. It opens our eyes to distinguish our true needs versus our wants and caprices.

  22. table4five says:

    Kailani-oh no! Six weeks because of a bicycle crash? I hope he’s okay now!

  23. table4five says:

    Rachel- Last year, when my Dad asked what the kids needed for Christmas, I said “hats and mittens”. So he filled medium size gift bags for each of them with a few hats, a few pairs of gloves/mittens, and a matching scarf. And much to my surprise, the boys thought those were great gifts! And I had extra pairs of mittens for when the originals got lost like they do every year :)

  24. table4five says:

    Carosgram-Thanks for the book suggestion, I’ll look for it!

  25. table4five says:

    Lanna- Thanks for the book suggestion! And I do still want to buy your Laptop Lunchboxes, I just need to wait until I have the extra money :)

  26. Frugal Mom (3 comments.) says:

    The economy has us all a bit scared, that is for sure. I, too, have tightened my belt in every aspect of my life. Gas, heating and cooling, savings, not to mention the “frivilous” things like clothes and food. I believe our parents and grandparents got through times like these, but it’s going to be a challenge for us, just like it was for our elders. Keep the faith!

  27. alpaca scarf
    Twitter: alpaca scarf
    (2 comments.)
    says:

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